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Phoenix

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I dare you to watch this without having that tugging in ur heart... Never knew that even the simplest things such as sitting in a public place in itself is a privilege!
And the end... ??
ஈராயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னர் எம்மில் இல்லாத ஏற்றத்தாழ்வை இடையில் வந்து புகுத்திய கயவர் யாரோ?
இட்டார் பெரியோர் இடாதார் இழிகுலத்தோர் என
சாதிகள் இரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை என்ற என் பெரும்பாட்டியின் கூற்றை மறக்கடித்தவன் யாரோ?
மனிதம் இன்றிப் போனால் இந்த மண்ணும் மலடாகும்...
அந்த இறைவனும் ஆலயம் நீங்குவான் என்று இந்தப் பதர்கள் உணரும் நாளும் எந்நாளோ??

 
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I dare you to watch this without having that tugging in ur heart... Never knew that even the simplest things such as sitting in a public place in itself is a privilege!
And the end... ??
ஈராயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னர் எம்மில் இல்லாத ஏற்றத்தாழ்வை இடையில் வந்து புகுத்திய கயவர் யாரோ?
இட்டார் பெரியோர் இடாதார் இழிகுலத்தோர் என
சாதிகள் இரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை என்ற என் பெரும்பாட்டியின் கூற்றை மறக்கடித்தவன் யாரோ?
மனிதம் இன்றிப் போனால் இந்த மண்ணும் மலடாகும்...
அந்த இறைவனும் ஆலயம் நீங்குவான் என்று இந்தப் பதர்கள் உணரும் நாளும் எந்நாளோ??

Heard this song afternoon only semma lyrics and touching.. paarai❤️❤️ soul
 

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I dare you to watch this without having that tugging in ur heart... Never knew that even the simplest things such as sitting in a public place in itself is a privilege!
And the end... ??
ஈராயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னர் எம்மில் இல்லாத ஏற்றத்தாழ்வை இடையில் வந்து புகுத்திய கயவர் யாரோ?
இட்டார் பெரியோர் இடாதார் இழிகுலத்தோர் என
சாதிகள் இரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை என்ற என் பெரும்பாட்டியின் கூற்றை மறக்கடித்தவன் யாரோ?
மனிதம் இன்றிப் போனால் இந்த மண்ணும் மலடாகும்...
அந்த இறைவனும் ஆலயம் நீங்குவான் என்று இந்தப் பதர்கள் உணரும் நாளும் எந்நாளோ??

Super ah iruku ma ??
 

CarnivaL

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Enaku yen indha song ah vida nee ezhdhunadhu persa theriyudhu!!! Sema lines Marvel..
In my pov, the frst step is to abolish caste based reservations. Yes, injustice prevails and what they tagg as low caste people, they are suffering. But the frst step is to stop asking for community certificates in the school.. that's wr everytg starts..
When my teacher said something about community certificate, the curious little me went to my dad and asked him quoting bharathiyar lines. Avar eludhunadhu school la teach panranglae pa aprm eduku avanglae community cert kekranga nu.. lol my dad used to say, nee perusaanadhum maaridum..

But even today, Casteism lives happily and kills humanity like how it had always behaved in the past. Youngsters maintaining caste based groups in social media is one thing and government reservations to make their life better is the other thing which adds fuel to the flame.

"There are people in many isolated areas, under poor living conditions and treated very badly. So they need reservations for a better life." People who support reservations say this. But is it helping ??
Why can't it be just one and fair.. Rich Jaadhi and poor jaadhi nae oru peria Jaadhi prachana irukrapo, naama adha solve pana dhan yosikanum..
I want to help change things.. And I will !

Two it is!! As per AvvaiiPaati ??
 

CarnivaL

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I dare you to watch this without having that tugging in ur heart... Never knew that even the simplest things such as sitting in a public place in itself is a privilege!
And the end... ??
ஈராயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னர் எம்மில் இல்லாத ஏற்றத்தாழ்வை இடையில் வந்து புகுத்திய கயவர் யாரோ?
இட்டார் பெரியோர் இடாதார் இழிகுலத்தோர் என
சாதிகள் இரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை என்ற என் பெரும்பாட்டியின் கூற்றை மறக்கடித்தவன் யாரோ?
மனிதம் இன்றிப் போனால் இந்த மண்ணும் மலடாகும்...
அந்த இறைவனும் ஆலயம் நீங்குவான் என்று இந்தப் பதர்கள் உணரும் நாளும் எந்நாளோ??

Marvel,, AvvaiPaati apdi paadi irukanga apdina, apayum indha prachana irundruku nu dhanae artham !?!
 

Phoenix

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Marvel,, AvvaiPaati apdi paadi irukanga apdina, apayum indha prachana irundruku nu dhanae artham !?!
Actually... 3 known avvai paattigal irunthirukanga throughout our literature.. intha song avangala latest paati ezhuthinatha irukalamnu scholars soldranga. Yes, thamizh kudigal nu soldrathu Inga mattum illa all over the world work based caste irunthiruku.. naalvarnam and padi nilai theendaamai ithellam than puthusaa Namma kitta thinikkapattathu.. antha kaalathula ezhuthina paatta athu irukkalam..
Tbh, enakum reservation pathi neraiya queries iruku.. superficial a theriyarathu onnu but analyse panni ground reality paatha veronnu thonum...
Inga privilege na ennane theriyaama atha anubavikkiravanga than athigam. Innum aanda saathi perumai pesi pesi avangaluku sera vendiya urimaigalai izhakuravanga athigam..
Ellame kedaichum, poraadaama economically weaker section nu saththam podama salugai vaanginavangalum irukanga...
Ithukellam solution a caste based reservation kondu varanumnu neraiya per sonnanga.. like ivlo percent ppl ku ivlo percent reservation.. apdi panna ellarukum equal a opportunity pogum.. potti avangalukulla nadakum.. and Ella caste ppl kum equal a representation kedaikum..
But politicians atha panna maatanga.. coz Aryan invasion kaalathula irunthey Inga divide and rule policy la tha vandi oditu iruku... Athanaala than Karnataka la easy a hijab vachi oru arasiyal panna mudinjithu... innum veliya theriyaatha evvalavo caste based problems iruku..
So, innum pala generations vanthaalum.. saathigalukulla irukkura intha padinilai theendaamai pogumaanu therila..
But... Ithu pathi pesanum... Yaarum yarukum adimaiyum illai arasanum illainu puriya vaikanum... Kids social awareness oda valaranum..
Only wen ppl read history and knw how magnificent we were when there were no such differentiations... Appo than change varum!
Athuvarai.. ipdiye than pesitu irupom..
TN la Perla irunthu saathiya olicha pathathu... Manasula irunthum ozhikanum!
 

CarnivaL

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Marvell,
U r becoming my easy search engine ?

Harmonious ah naama irundrukom apdingradhuku neraya reference irukaa,, edhavdhu sollu, padichu paakren. Illa neeye oru post with meaning potaalum okay dhan ?
 

Phoenix

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Marvell,
U r becoming my easy search engine ?

Harmonious ah naama irundrukom apdingradhuku neraya reference irukaa,, edhavdhu sollu, padichu paakren. Illa neeye oru post with meaning potaalum okay dhan ?
Specific a solla mudiyathu but neraiya references sangam lit full a iruku. And kheezadi excavation kooda naama correlate panni paakalam..
Actually, as per this modern caste notion, kuyavar aka potters vanthu soodhra and avangaluku right to education illanu solvanga. But kheezhadila kedaicha paanaigalla name lam ezhuthi sutrukanga.. like ancient engraving techniques. Also, songs la paatha intha nilam thalaivan apdi than irukum.. Inna saathi apdinu irukkathu...
Pura ilakiyangal la kooda, por arivippu vanthathum padai veerargal nu porappo, veetuku orutharum povanga irrespective of their caste. Ithuvum nalvarna kotpaadukku against than.
And, until vijayanagara kingdom, pazhani temple la poojai pannathu pandarargal, who are said to be the disciples of boghar but none of them were Brahmins.
They were forcefully removed from temple using the army. This happened in a lot of our temples, including peruvudiyar temple at Tanjore..
Historically speaking, Inga work based caste system irunthiruku which is inevitable. Coz man is a social animal and we need to form groups. So, they choose to live together based on their occupation.. like oru ease of living! Athanala than streets r villages ku kooda antha ooroda majority caste base panni name pannirupanganu nenakiren..
But slow poison maathiri than intha naal varnam ulla nulainjirukum. Athuku apram vantha lits ellam Vera mathiri irukum.. atha padikum pothey differences theriyum... Open a sonna oru saathi kalavarame Inga varum lol ??
Inga saathigal romba varushama iruku aana saathiya yetrathaalvugal and padinilai theendaamai ithellam naduvula Namma mela thinikka pattathu than!
Padinilai theendaamai.. athan keyword?? athu vachi light a search panni paarunga.. u'd b amazed.. coz carnie.. we were social engineered!! And we still follow the same stuff coz we believe it's true and okay... Athan kodumai!
 

CarnivaL

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Super Marvel,,
Hmm padinilai theendamai and naal varna kotpadu rendumae pakanum.
 

Phoenix

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Super Marvel,,
Hmm padinilai theendamai and naal varna kotpadu rendumae pakanum.
Innoru interesting fact ennanna.. intha nalvarna kotpaattai soldrathaala than Russia la bhagavat Gita va ban pannirukanga.. ?
 

Phoenix

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Ouhhh,, I simply thought it's because of the orthodoxy.
Nah nah.. dividing ppl as high and low based on birth.. ithaan naalvarnam rt? Intha concept was baffling to them.. coz all men r equal! ? And there were a few more key points too.. again athu sonna, saathi kalavaramaagalam.. so, yeah!
 

CarnivaL

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Nah nah.. dividing ppl as high and low based on birth.. ithaan naalvarnam rt? Intha concept was baffling to them.. coz all men r equal! ? And there were a few more key points too.. again athu sonna, saathi kalavaramaagalam.. so, yeah!
Yess. But they say andha four caste system ku munadi, everyone in the world were treated equals aahm. Because apo elam people were pure in their thoughts nu solranga. Once people started having evil thoughts and unethical stuffs. Indha caste system was the solution and it ws successful too. There ws a point even a person who is born in shudra can purify himself undergoing some processes and earn rights and respects.. mayb idhellam few centuries ku irundrukumo.. aprm the caste system collapsed and failed nu solranga.. but epdi paarthalum, by birth classify panradhu it's not right dhan
 

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Yess. But they say andha four caste system ku munadi, everyone in the world were treated equals aahm. Because apo elam people were pure in their thoughts nu solranga. Once people started having evil thoughts and unethical stuffs. Indha caste system was the solution and it ws successful too. There ws a point even a person who is born in shudra can purify himself undergoing some processes and earn rights and respects.. mayb idhellam few centuries ku irundrukumo.. aprm the caste system collapsed and failed nu solranga.. but epdi paarthalum, by birth classify panradhu it's not right dhan
Anga than twist... Padinilai theendaamai.. if a person, say an outsider comes to ur home and claims that u all r beneath him.. what will a normal sane person do? The first instinct is to kick him out rt.. but.. what if he chooses the most powerful one in the family and starts poisoning him with the notion of having more power.. tht he is superior to the others.. then talks to the second powerful and makes him believe that except the first, the rest is beneath him vice versa.. then tells that he is above the first one.. so automatically every1 comes beneath him... To the one who doesn have any useful life skill! illatha onna uruvaakkurathu... Tht he is below u.. but u r below me.. and ithellam not based on characteristic traits but simply based on birth... How cringy it sounds.. but intha karumatha innum Inga ppl follow pandranga.. ?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️
 

CarnivaL

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Yeah, like u already mentioned, divide and rule it is.. The thirst for Authority.
 

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Actual aa sollanum naa

Everything looks beautiful, heart touching, feel to forward and appreciate the video and discussion, but everything is just a content and just a window to peep out on someone else sorrow sitting in a sofa

But don't see any of the person involved in this entire content haven't done a bit for the subject other than talking🤐 including me
 

Phoenix

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Actual aa sollanum naa

Everything looks beautiful, heart touching, feel to forward and appreciate the video and discussion, but everything is just a content and just a window to peep out on someone else sorrow sitting in a sofa

But don't see any of the person involved in this entire content haven't done a bit for the subject other than talking🤐 including me
Actually... Considering we r all strangers.. we can't say that outright.. right? As u have no clue about what i have r haven't done and vice versa. In here, we only show what we want to show but every one of us have different masks.😊😊
The point of this post here is to share our views coz that's what forums r for basically!! 😊
In my humble opinion, the ability to create awareness and coming forward to talk about taboo topics itself should be welcomed coz in most countries, still ppl r getting killed for speaking out their mind. The only weapon many has is their pen r social media. So, let ppl speak. I believe that mind is the strongest weapon ever created.. so, let's pass on the memes (not just the funny kind but also the memetic intelligence kind). If it helps sm1 to just think about the other side, then I'd say that it's a victory.. and a better thing other than doing nothing and being just a spectator!
So... Let's talk what has been kept in the dark for 100s of yrs. And try to change the mindset of ppl coz these changes won't happen automatically. And all the big changes in history happened with just words,..
Therefore, never underestimate the power of words 😊😊
 
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